Martial Arts Tricking

Yeah i guess your …
Yeah i guess your right. if its isolated then integrated drills then sparring then that is the best way to train.

“Alive doesn’t mean …
“Alive doesn’t mean without drills… from what I can gather from reading an article by Matt it means ONLY drilling without resistance”

I think you mistyped what you are trying to say.

Genius words! WHO …
Genius words! WHO is Matt thornton?!

ONLY?
give me a …
ONLY?
give me a brake. there has to be some balance.
even ju jitsu and judo people have to intitially learn a movement before they insert it into rolling.
If i show a first day guy a hip throw once. Im not going to start resisting his motion and trying to choke him when he tries it the first time. Ive got to let him learn the motion without resisting initially.
YOU JUST CANT ALWAYS TRAIN ALIVE.
The thais the brazilians the japanese they all have isolated drills to intially learn motions

If nothing else, I …
If nothing else, I think he wants to teach MMA without doing MMA. You know, fine, whatever.

Now you could break …
Now you could break all of that stuff apart and train it one thing at a time… or you could take a short cut and install all of those things in one drill. Then later the movements are all there when you do need to train them individually. I am absolutely not saying anyone should focus on sumbrada, but learning it is a short cut to some very important principles and movements. If they are being taught in any other way the teacher is just bad. Don’t train them, but do learn them.

I believe Matt …
I believe Matt Thornton’s experience with exercises like Chi Sau come from static, dead sources. He has a similarly poor opinion of lock rolls in jujitsu, and I agree on dead training. I do Wing Chun and Chi Sau, which starts as a set roll of Wing Chun positions (considering that’s what we do), the attacks are real and you can respond however you wish. We also practice what we call “Unorthodox” Chi Sau, where one is a boxer, fighter, grappler, etc. and you respond using wing chun, works forus

But sumbrada when …
But sumbrada when it goes freestyle is a great drill for things like line familiariazation )seeing angles coming and blocking them) or practicing zero pressure zoning. certainly then you insert these things into sparring later
i would argue sumbrada has uses.
Holding boxing mitts for someone isnt much different. start with paterns of punching at them. drop patterns punh them randomly. then insert the motions into sparring.

By the way we do see sumbrada motions in stick fights all the time

Someone who would …
Someone who would beat you silly with minimal effort?

Resisting? Just …
Resisting? Just because you try to stop someone from tagging you in a game of patty cake doesn’t make the game of patty cake practical for real combat. It is “sensitivity” (if one would even dignify it as such) based off of a flawed premise to begin with.